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Are Bounties & Pinnacle Weapon Quests RUINING PVP In Destiny 2??

July 25, 2019



I ain't get to invade they have 48 we have nothing welcome to gambit with blueberries ladies and gentlemen 75 to nothing man 75 to nothing they have a primeval we have zero motes you want to get a portal guys do you want to kill these and get a portal that sound like a plan you're using a bow on a shielded enemy your dad probably should switch off the bow hey can we get a portal I'm out you guys are not worth my time man good god he's getting the hush I don't care I'm tired of bounties ruining the experience for players oops you're right I quit out ban me here's the problem I don't talk about the elephant in the room real quick here's the problem look I know destiny is a loop-based game I get that if you hit your touchpad go to your pursuits you're gonna have a bunch of things to do in this game that's awesome right we have a bunch of things to do in this game we have bounties to complete we have loot to chase after in destiny one it used to be RNG you know it was like going to the casino you beat a strike you beat a raid or something like that and boom Gjallarhorn drops people lose their shit that doesn't happen anymore now we have the snowflake system where you have to feel like you're being rewarded for everything you do in this game you can't just play this game for fun anymore it's a job you have to have something to do you have to have a job to do so what they did is they put in all these bounties in the game right to give people things to do to force people to play old content over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over it's why every time we get a new season you do the same shit you do the same old shit it's just here's a carrot they dangle a carrot with a weapon now go do those lost sectors again now go do those public events again now go do those strikes again now go do it so they they've learned that people will grind for this shit even if they never plan on using the gun they will grind people who aren't even snipers will grind for the sniper people who never even use bows will grind for the bows why because it's something to do I get that that's fine not really complaining about that here's what I don't like right this game is one of I'm gonna say one of because I don't know if it's completely true or not but one of the only first-person shooter games that give you a very specific job to do during a match these bounties melee final blows in the crucible so in other words what Bungie wants is here's something for you to do while you play but people don't play this game that way they don't say okay well while I'm playing if it happens to happen that great they don't play this game that way what they do is how do I get this done as soon as possible perfect example the mountaintop right let's go to the mountaintop triumph that I have this shit right over here alright people don't say you know what if in pursuit of honor done then great what they do is they say I need to get this done as fast as possible and if that means equipping three grenade launchers at one time I will do it same thing with the hush right people would rather lose a match they would rather throw the game if it means making progress on this bounty and what has happened is that's fine every now and then it's not really that big of a deal it's kind of like when the revolt came out did you guys notice when the revoke her came out how many sniper rifles were out there they were everywhere even people who didn't know how to snipe head on a sniper and was sitting at the back of the map camping I'm not complaining about the bounty system but what I don't like is that the bounty system in PvP is forcing people to play a certain way for a reward and it's diluting and ruining a lot of PvP experiences for people I'm tired of like you know you see a guy run around with a bow yeah we just played a gambit match and the other teams summon their primal and we have zero moats deposited and it's like well maybe they're working on the bow that doesn't make it okay like you're ruining the experience for people people don't go into PvP anymore just to be good just to win games just to shoot people to work on skill it's it's all doing these different jobs and it's it's ruining a lot of PvP experiences because you don't get a team that's why people are quitting out because they have a bounty where wins matter or something if if there was no bounties to be completed in crucible or in PvP or in a mode in PvP whether it's trials or something else then your performance is the only thing that matters and people will play and it's a place where people can do what first-person shooters are supposed to be about shooting the other person being good and winning and that's that's no longer what's happening in this game and it's very frustrating to play this game and have teammates that aren't playing because they're busy working on a job trying to get something accomplished I liked it better before there were all these pinnacle weapons and before there were all these jobs to do in crucible people don't play crucible anymore any mate and I can't even talk I'm so man people don't play crucible anymore just to play and be good remember like Halo and Call of Duty all those games you just go in there and you just try and do better each match you try and do better you try and be better you try and practice you try and work on your skills you try and get a higher score it doesn't work like that anymore it's well I got my 10 headshots today now what should I work on sitting still for 5 minutes ok got that done now what should I work on spinning in circles for 32 matches straight ok I got that now what do I work on I mean am I wrong like you guys you guys have been playing video games for a long time right it's not like this when you're going to other games when we play overwatch we go in there and we try to win we try to win sometimes we win sometimes we lose what we try to win and we try to do better we try to use new characters that's why people don't use these other guns there are how many weapons in this game go to collections how many I know blues and whites and stuff like that don't really matter but there are so many things in this damn game that nobody's ever gonna use because it's not the meta and because it doesn't help them complete their tasks and their jobs and this and that I want to just go in and I want to shoot people and win games you know and not have to worry about my teammates like shit are they trying to win today no ok put him on my team against the clan afore they should make a bounty lobby strictly for the sniper board grenade launcher I would even I wouldn't even mind the opposite where they have a non bounty lobby like I know they have like private matches private matches is a place you can go you cannot complete bounties but then you have to gather up friends to get in there and do that competitive here we'll say it this way competitive should not have any bounties in it at all because people go into competitive not to win they go in to complete a bounty and they throw matches how is that competitive when you have people on your team not trying to win how is that competitive why not just have competitive be the mode where the only thing that matters is win period or trials bring back trials and then do that competitive should not have bounties attached to it period I will take a stand on that get bounties out of competitive I don't want somebody on my team in competitive trying to get headshots and throwing the match because you know they're just trying to get headshots and they're dying in the process because they're not good at it see it's little things like that they could do to improve the game little improvements like that that would go a long way to improve this game you

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  • Reply Reallifematters July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Im not starting hush until medals are done and i run grenade launchers in strikes.

  • Reply Reallifematters July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Well ill never get mountaintop got like 1500 grenade launcher kills but 50% done. Yea i quit tryin but all the othrr ones were pretty easy

  • Reply Damon Fincher July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    No it isnt. I think that it makes pvp better because it gives you long term goal plus you see different loadouts because of it. If these were not in the game, first of all i wouldnt play pvp as much. Second the meta would be run in every game mode every match because no one would want to lose and if im working on a pinnacle weapon or someone on my team is and we lose, I say oh well thats progress. Id rather have this like this. There is a reason why cod, overwatch, and battlefield are boring as crap and that is because it is so one dimensional. Also here is another idea dont worry about your teammates play the game have fun do your best and if you lose then oh well try again. So personally i think youre wrong.

  • Reply TheCraneBane July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I’ve gotten two pinnacle weapons. Oxygen SR3 and Breakneck. That’s it. I refuse to do Mountaintop or Recluse, as I’ve done my fair share of comp and despise the game mode with a damn PASSION. I won’t do Wendigo because it requires me to do hours of grinding that I don’t have time for. I won’t get Luna or NF, again Comp. And if I EVER use a bow in Gambit I might as well shot myself with it, because I am making my team lose by equipping it.

    Whenever I see people doing group activities, and they require everyone to have a Mountaintop, Recluse, etc, I just back out. Some of these quests are, excuse my language: bullshit to the highest degree. Bungie, you want me to get multikills, WITH GRENADE LAUNCHERS? IN PVP? Wtf, no. The only reason I did Oxygen and Breakneck was because I picked up the quest and did them overtime. I hate pinnacle weapons with a passion, simply because they seem to absolutely ruin the game, either for you or those on your team.

  • Reply SparkyMTB July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    100% agree 👍🏼

  • Reply Shawn Harris July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    You see I think it's a double-edged sword there. On one hand the game is forcing you to get better with weapons you would otherwise never touch, which I think is a positive thing overall and you really do game sense of Pride once you get good with that said weapon. On the other hand I completely agree with what you're saying and the whole philosophy of Bounties in PvP.

    It's hard to say whats best my dude. I say play the game the way you want to play it regardless.

  • Reply joedowns68 July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    It don't mind grinding for a weapon but I wish they wouldn't make it so damn restrictive. I don't want to use a bow all the time in Gambit, or a hand cannon all the time in Crucible or a grenade-launcher in well anything really. Just make it X thousand kills across Y hundred matches of game mode Z with a primary or energy or power weapon. You'll still be putting in the game hours like Bungie wants but at least it'll be with your choice of weapons so you can focus on trying your best to win each individual match as well. And maybe even having some fun along the way too.

  • Reply The_kings_play July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I hate how players have to be a dick and require you to get pinnacle weapons in order to do a specific activity

  • Reply Adan Gael July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    When I play comp i always get bad teammates so please help me I play of Xbox if anyone wants to help

  • Reply Felix Sanchez July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Honestly I've got to say this, I both hate the bounty system and just deal with it at the same time. Personally I am one of those bow users you were talking about, however I'm also an archer in real life. For me when I get a bow in the game I'm looking for certain things in the bow that will help me actually win matches. Now out of all the bows that are in the game there's literally ONLY two that I will ever like and will ever use, those two are the Wish Ender (It's designed to OVER penetrate enemies and take out more than just one, and thanks to that, tends to cut shields down FAST, so that once the shield is down, either a body shot or a prime shot will take the enemy down in one go round), and the Le Monarch bow (namely because a full draw on that bow tends to allow the surrounding enemies to also be hit with void poison when you get a prime shot). Otherwise the only thing that I allow on the other bows is archers tempo (which allows reload extremely fast) and explosive head, if the bow doesn't have those two, it's not worth my salt, I'm just recycling that bitch right off the bat. It's called fuck it, next. You take me into ANY Gambit or Crucible match (and mind you I completely SUCK at crucible), I will be using these weapons (along with either an SMG or a good hand cannon) and I will do my level fucking best to win that damned match. Bungie pointed out in a ViDoc of theirs (which I will include at the end of this comment), that a bow can be deadly in the right hands. When I heard that they were putting the bow into this game, and the lengths that they went to, to make sure that it was good, I'm loving every bit of the system that they put in place for these bows. Yes some of them are pure crap and not worth it. However if like I said, you put them in someone's hands that knows EXACTLY what they're doing (such as myself), then the bow is extremely deadly. Now mind you I will switch things up during a match, if I'm needing to get things done, I will switch up to a shotgun and level the shit out of the enemies (at least in Gambit) and get moving. However knowing how the bow system works is the only way that a player will ever be able to do a damned thing in Destiny 2 with a bow. Otherwise it's like using a fucking pea shooter at an Ogre, literally the ONLY thing you're going to do is piss it off and then get killed your self. Personally BA, I would love to show you how someone like myself does with a bow when they know what they're doing (and sorry for the long comment here). however there are plenty of players out there that have no fucking clue about that system, and don't give a fuck either.

    Now when it comes to the other weapons in the game, personally I will never use snipers so I'm not doing any quest that has me using a sniper rifle, if it's required for a piece of gear that I'm wanting for my character (because I will wear those), then I'll use them, otherwise, I'm going to be using Pulse Rifles, Bows, Automatics, shotguns, SMG's, or hand cannons. Beyond that nothing else is worth it in my eyes. Also the bounty system in this game completely sucks. I like quests way more than I like bounties, and this whole bounty system is catering to players that really don't fucking wanna work for shit. Completely not worth it.

    Now here's that video that I mentioned above (you may have to copy and paste it, not sure) https://youtu.be/oAUC-g6QTrY

  • Reply Rebel Jakku July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Your not wrong a lot of players go to do the bounties and that's it. Same with the pinnacle quests some focus to much on just doing the tasks. Yeah I'm guilty of going into crucible with the idea of working on somthing like mountatintop I went into mayhem with 3 grenade launchers and tether yo finish that thing. After I already got to fabled and got recluse and thought eh why not see if I can get it in this one week of mayhem. Lunas and the revoker I just played chaseing fabled rank and I was already Useing snipers beforehand anyways.

  • Reply Robert S July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    They should create pvp matches against AI or quest against AI's for pvp with the option to bring friends orcehat not. Like you said Destiny is just going around in circles.. sure there are as few new cooper things but I feel like there just recycling D1 into D2.. hey lets grind for a weapon in D2 that I already spent a lot of time grinding for in D1. I play a lot of the game solo. Mu work schedule is crazy so when I play everything is mostly solo. I'm not s huge pvp person never have. I love strikes and story content.. I feel there lacking so much in that. I was upset when D2 released and I was like wow.. same as D1.. come on! Introduce some new classes something!!

  • Reply Deuce Luv July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    “The snowflake system” gosh im glad im still subscribed to you thank you!!

  • Reply Miguel Angel Flores Ramirez July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Hahahahaha the guy that doesn’t take zones is complaining about players not PTFO? Hahahaha hahahaha u

  • Reply Cheper July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Totally disagree, I honestly like it because it exposes the player to weapons they wouldn't normally use. I hated Grenade launchers but after busting my ass for Mountaintop I use it and Fighting Lion like a champ! I had to learn how to use them and understand how and when to use them to my advantage. I completely understand that this will not happen with every weapon every time, perfect example Snipers for me, I cant use them I've tried so many times but will continue to grind until I get the weapon, but until then I hate every minute of pvp because I hate using Snipers. In the end I will rather have 1M people chasing weapons and bounties on a daily basis than have a skeleton crew of bungie Fanboys playing for the sake of winning matches.

  • Reply david frye July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I feel ya. If you ever need someone to just play to win hit me up. That's all I want to do as well

  • Reply Riley Reddinger July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I know it'll prob get buried but I disagree. You've got a decently large sized group of players for d2. All the different platforms. Destiny has to be unique as well. But if it's all about "winning" then why not do all the other shooters? Shoot shit, dont die, love the motto from years past, but who is to say what to use? Shit is tough, I know that, but if you queue with anyone else other than yourself, you cant control what they do to have fun. You might want to go in and win, but to others, the bounty completion after a large grind is their winning. Some people are going in, they might have already gotten whatever it is, but they're trying out new loadouts to try stuff. The "meta" is so wide now with many different load outs compared to mida/uriels/raid rocket in year 1. The reason why is because of new weapons and honestly I have a reason to believe the pinnacle weapons. Like I've seen in other comments, people snipe now because of them, smg, GL, bows, blah blah blah. But that is putting in variety into the game. Sure you arent going to win everything. Sure it wont go exactly the way you want to, of course not, it's a multiplayer game. But dont let the joy and grind of others make you angry at bungie or them. I mean I remember when it was rough for me in beginning of d2, I rolled to new solo games because of it. I played my way and it was awesome. But that's what people do in d2 and that's how it goes 😀 so agree to disagree, but that's my 2 cents on the whole situation

  • Reply jnuttsdotcom July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I have complained about this for 2 years. I guess I am not the only one who see this.

  • Reply Chris Cobra Elite July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    The only 2 things I'm grinding for is the revoker & not forgotten. I mainly play comp most of the time, i might need something from pve if i want it.

    It took me awhile to learn the snipes, not I'm pretty decent with a sniper. Way before revoker came out i was sniping! Practice makes perfect!!!

  • Reply Eze_Azael July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Yess… every 1 on 3 matches someone quits on the middle of the game… btw on 1:45 i almost choked on my food while watching 😆

  • Reply Ascended Cloud July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    This is one of the very few things I disagree with u on. Quest/bounties for weapons have been going on since vanilla d1. I remember the tireless grinds for Thorn bad juju and pocket infinity. also remember picking up trials bounties from brother Vance that I didn't really care to do. Just don't see why it is such a problem now. Thanks for the endless hours of entertainment

  • Reply 72bunk July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    The bounties should be in the game, but you shouldn't have to pick them up, they just drop when you complete them…I hate having to pick them up…that is not fun…

  • Reply Säuremienengamer fsk16 July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I couldnt say it better

  • Reply Xavier Arai July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I understand they want us to branch out in playstyle, but how it worked w/ me and revoker (almost there) compared to Luna/NF and especially MT… Are completely different. I needed to practice sniping, but certain combos have forced my hand and are just horrible.

  • Reply Andrew Clarke July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I’m with you all the way BA. I have none of the pinnacle weapons as it requires me to do exactly that. All those quests are still incomplete. I am of the opinion that I will get them when I get around to it. I am not looking for a vpn team, just so people can stand in front of me so I can shot them in the face. Seems to me there is much more of a focus on the pvp aspect of the game, once you finish the story there is not much else to do but pvp. Hopefully shadowkeep will add some more story stuff to do.

  • Reply American BlackUp July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I agree with the quest system in pvp is kinda broken cause people will do quest and then will sit their and relax

  • Reply Viperstryke July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I quit playing Destiny before Forsaken, because it was just not fun anymore. When you're forced to play a way that you're not used to it quits being fun. I still enjoy watching videos of other people having fun, but I just don't have a reason to come back. Can't wait for borderlands 3 for a good looter shooter

  • Reply Joseph Knowles July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Really BA, I have to say the whole dam game is broken. Really you want me to get this great exotic weapon??? Well get some friends and do it. Oh wait, my friends don't want to play this anymore cause it's pointless. I can just list all the bs stuff that we all go thru, but these bounties are just pointless. I rather not spend countless hrs for nothing when the next season, here we go again. AND no I'm not goin to try and find random ppl to help me get these exotics. Whisper and the other exotic gun(forgot what it's called), both having to run a stupid timed area where you have to kill a boss. I tired doing that in D1, that shit was a pain in the ass and I still didn't get it. Really bungie, take a page from D1, make loot random and be done with it. Fuck this bounty shit! BO4, they just added bounties and all of them are so much better then these. You have a locked daily bounty and 8 ones you can pick to do, 2 at a time in a match. Example, blackout, play 45 mins in solo. Next bounty, kill 5 ppl as a zombie character. Get 5 backpacks in 5 games…. wow so hard to do

  • Reply Lrbearclaw July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    While I don't agree with most of the video as it comes off about being destroyed (0 notes means you didn't bank either, I get it though had a match like that last night).

    However, I agree 100% that Competitive should be about skill and not bounties. Now, if the pinnacles track your score/resets in Comp, that is completely different than allowing bounties since that is charting progress and not dictating how you will play.

  • Reply Eric Procunier July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I 100% agree that the pinnacle weapons have changed the experience for pvp. When I did the hush I didn’t see any drop in my performance I was banking 60-80 motes per match but in comp I have had such a hard solo grind because I get stuck with people who are afk or who quit out all the time and my 4 win streak goes bye bye and I lose a ton of progress because these people don’t treat comp seriously.

  • Reply Belitt July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Competitive no bounties sounds amazing..

  • Reply joe rosadini July 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Fucking hard scoping!!!! fucking bullshit

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