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Dragunov Variations: Military SVD, Izhmash Tiger, Chinese NDM-86

November 9, 2019


Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another
video on ForgottenWeapons.com. I’m Ian McCollum, and I am here today at the Rock Island Auction House taking a look at some of the guns that they’re going to be selling in their upcoming May of 2017 Premier Auction. And I happened to notice that in this auction they had no less than three different versions of Dragunov rifles. And I thought this would be an excellent opportunity for us to take a look at all three side by side. So specifically we have a Tiger, we have an actual Soviet military SVD Dragunov, and we have a Chinese NDM-86 in .308 calibre. And there’s a lot of speculation on the internet about what really the differences are between these guns. And the truth is there’s basically no difference
between these guns in practical terms. That may be heresy to some people,
but the differences are really quite minor. Now we’ll take a look at the internal differences,
because there are a few that I do want to point out. But in practice, handling, shooting, these
are all going to be practically identical. Now the Dragunov began development in
1958 by Yevgeny Dragunov, predictably, and what the Soviet Union was looking for
in this rifle was a new sharpshooter’s rifle. … They had started by scoping the
91/30 Mosin-Nagant, and that worked well. And then in 1940 they attempted to … introduce a semi-automatic
marksman’s rifle, optically sighted, which was the SVT-40. Now the SVT-40 was a reasonably effective self-
loading rifle, but it was a failure as a marksman’s rifle. There were too many accuracy problems with the guns, especially
the differences between first round and subsequent rounds. … When the barrel started to heat
at all, it wouldn’t hold its zero well. And they tried using it in World War Two and
it was just not effective, and for that reason you will only see a very small number of very early
SVT rifles were actually equipped with optical sights. After that they ditched the optics. They continued
to manufacture and issue the rifles in large numbers, but as an infantry rifle. So, after World War Two they knew… They had gone back to re-issuing
the 91/30 Mosin-Nagant with an optic, and they knew that they needed something to fill this void
because the Mosin-Nagant was not doing it adequately. Now, this isn’t so much a sniper rifle in this
guise of some guy in a ghillie suit crawling 5 miles and then camping out for 3 days in his own filth
and then taking one shot at a high value target. The idea behind the Dragunov, which was
also the idea behind the scoped SVT-40, is that it is kind of like a machine gun
or a light mortar, it is … a force multiplier, it’s an extra piece of an infantry combined arms unit that
you can place to get better support to an infantry unit. So a guy with an SVD was expected to be able to
take shots at human targets at up to 600 to 800 metres. And you could largely use one of these in
place of, for example, a Maxim machine gun. Instead of dominating through volume of fire, you would have a
very effective accurate fire that would allow you to control an area. So that was the purpose of this rifle, and it does it
really well, what’s really cool about Dragunov’s design is he recognised that … in designing a
rifle like this, everything is about trade-offs. You have accuracy, you have weight, you have
reliability, and these all require different focusses. And so if you want to increase
reliability and durability, for example, you would typically do this by strengthening
a lot of parts, making things heavier. If you want to increase accuracy, one of the
ways to do it is to increase the barrel weight. Especially to make sure that the barrel doesn’t
change point of impact over many rounds fired. However, as you do that you increase the
weight and you thus make the gun less portable. When the Soviets … set out
the specifications for this rifle one of the things that they were very strict
about was that it had to be a lightweight gun. This had to be easily transported, they
didn’t want a 15 or 20 pound sniper rifle. They really wanted something that was close in weight
to the standard AK assault rifle. And that’s what they got. Dragunov, who had experience as a designer of Olympic
style target rifles, was able to put together this gun that had acceptable accuracy, acceptable weight,
acceptable reliability and did everything pretty well. This really kind of is a jack of all
trades rifle. It’s not the most accurate, it’s up there for reliability, it’s an
extremely reliable, durable, rugged gun. Because that was a primary
concern for the Soviet military. And it’s quite light. This thing comes in at 4.5 kilos, or
right at 10 pounds, which is great for a precision rifle. In the field it is easy to carry
around, it’s not really a burden. Accuracy wise, these are typically
going to be 1.5 to 2 minute of angle guns. I know there are people out there who are going
to talk a lot about sub-minute of angle groups, I think those things are really co-incidental and occasional
occurrences, and not standard, expected performance for the guns. They didn’t need to be that accurate, and one
of the trade-offs made in order to get the guns to be lightweight and reliable was to not try
to force super sub-minute of angle accuracy. Now, the three versions we have here of course, this is as best
I can tell, a legitimate military issue Soviet Dragunov rifle. This, the Tiger, is the commercial version
of the gun that was marketed by Izhevsk, … or Izhmash, which is the Izhevsk
manufacturing plant’s commercial arm. Those are sold as hunting rifles,
high end, nice hunting rifles in [Russia]. And a couple thousand of them
total have been imported into the US or a couple thousand Dragunovs in general.
Exact numbers on the Tiger I don’t know offhand, but they have been brought in by
a number of different companies. And then the Chinese copied the SVD, now we’ll
get into some of the details of this in a minute. They made them in both .308
and 7.62×54 rimmed calibre. The Soviet guns are all in 54
rimmed, all the military ones. The Tigers, the commercial ones, are
available in 7.62 NATO, 7.62×54 and also 9.3mm. There are a few differences between
the NDM-86 and the Soviet rifles, and there’s also a few differences between
the Soviet military and commercial rifles. So, why don’t we just take these apart and
take a look at what those differences are. Probably the most common and basic misconception
about the Dragunov is that it is not, in fact, an AK. While it does bear some external similarity to the AK, it is a substantially different design in pretty much
every way, no parts interchange between the two. So, controls are reasonably similar, we do still
have the same pattern of safety and dust cover. These are semi-automatic only, of course, always have
been. There are no full-auto versions of the Dragunov. Trigger. This is actually your disassembly
lever, so we’ll get to that in just a moment. The magazine catch is also
reasonably similar to that of the AK. Now if we look at the magazines, you’ll see that this
kind of has a grid waffle pattern on it of reinforcing ribs, that is an SVD magazine. The PSL, the Romanian
marksman’s rifle, which is an upsized AK, has a very similar pattern magazine, but
it has an X shape to the reinforcing ribs. And that’s the easy way to differentiate the
two, because they are not interchangeable. 10 round magazine, this is of
course a Tiger in 7.62×54 rimmed. This is one that came in through
California Arms, which is a little bit unusual in that it came with the flash
hider and bayonet lug assembly. Typically the Tiger does not have these things
because it is just a commercial sporting rifle. But this particular import batch did come
with them and most people put them on. It does have the typical polymer
front end furniture though, for a Tiger. So we’ll take a quick look at the
gas system here by taking this off. In order to do that we are going
to start by pulling this lever down. You would normally do that with a cartridge, but I
am going to use my universal disassembly tool here. Push it down, there we go, It has this little hook on it here that
locks it inside this retaining cap. So we rotate that all the way down, and then
we can pop this front handguard retainer forward. With that up and out of the way, we can now pop the handguards off,
and they are kind of retained by this little … sheet metal plate here. So we are going to (there we go), pop that off. Pop off the bottom one. Now we can get a better look at the gas
system, which is a short stroke piston. When the rifle fires, this piston
is going to come backwards, you can see it moving, right up inside here, right there, It’s going to come back, hit the
bolt, and throw the bolt rearwards. It can be disassembled, push it in, comes out. Then we have our gas block and gas plug there. This is the actual piston component that comes
backwards, and its range of motion is fairly limited. See there’s a little vent hole, so that once
the piston clears that, gas vents out that hole instead of putting further pressure on the system. Alright, I’m switching now to the
military Dragunov, the Soviet military one. This actually has a two position adjustable
gas system. So I can push this catch in, and rotate it between number one, right there, and number two, right there. … This block on the side is set so that you can put a 54 rimmed
case in there and use it as a lever to turn this if it gets sticky. The adjustable gas system is a bit of extra complexity
that wasn’t deemed necessary for the civilian version. So the Tigers, as well as the NDM-86
rifles, do not have that adjustability. However, these parts will drop into an NDM-86,
if you want to use them and can find a spare set. Now, let’s move on to the receiver area. We have a scope on here, this is the standard scope
that was used on the Dragunov, which is a 4×24 PSO-1. There are other scopes available, the side rail system
of course now has been used for a wide variety of optics. There’s a locking lever here that I
am going to lift up and rotate open. There we go, up. Once it’s unlocked, the scope slides
very easily off the back of the rail. Right, now that the scope is off
we can remove the dust cover. We are going to do that by taking this lever and
rotating it just about 180 degrees backwards. That can snap into position on that little screw,
and then the dust cover just lifts straight up. So unlike the AK, the dust cover has
the recoil spring and guide integral to it. This is actually much more similar to the SVT. Set that aside. Then the bolt carrier slides to the back and
lifts out, and the bolt itself is there inside. Unlike the AK, we can now take the fire control
group out as a complete unit, which is pretty handy. To do that we rotate the safety lever up,
and when it’s approximately vertical (there we go), it will pop out. The safety lever comes out, and then the trigger unit just pops out the bottom. So it’s got these two hooks that lock on this
bar, and then the safety lever locks it in place. Couple of quick features to note about the Dragunov design.
For one thing it has 3 locking lugs instead of 2 on the AK. That’s done because more locking surfaces gives you a more
repeatable lock up, and improves accuracy of the design. It’s also stronger, which doesn’t hurt,
but I don’t think that’s the primary reason. The recoil spring guide in here is actually
designed so that it pivots down like this, that makes it much easier to
install this back into the rifle. That’s cool, that fixes a potential
issue that was in the SVT-40. And of course having the trigger as a
removable unit is a really handy nice thing, and these have a much better
trigger pull to them than a typical AK. One of the main differences between all of these different Dragunov
versions is the trigger mechanism and how it interacts with the bolt. And this is a very subtle difference, you
would never actually know it shooting the guns, but it’s interesting to take a look at here
because we have examples of all three. So this is the original military SVD. We have a hammer right here, and what’s that?
It’s not going anywhere when I pull the trigger. The reason is that there is a disconnect
here. Now this is designed to be a safety. So what happens is when the bolt goes forward, there’s
a little tab on the back of the bolt [carrier] right here, that is going to ride up onto that
lever and push this lever down. Now the hammer is actually being held by
the sear, and when I pull the trigger it will fire. When I re-cock it, it gets held by this
disconnect again, and the trigger does nothing. So these were always semi-auto guns, these were never
full-auto guns, there is no full-auto capability to the SVD. However the way this is designed, it’s basically the
same as an auto trip or an auto sear in a machine gun. In other machine gun designs
… when you hold the trigger down, this prevents the hammer from actually
releasing until the bolt is fully closed. So when … various versions of the
Dragunov were submitted for import into the US, ATF looked at this lever and said, “Oh, that’s
an auto sear, you can’t have that in the gun.” So they were removed. This is the imported Tiger fire control
group, and you’ll notice, no lever. So on the left here is the military, and on the
right is the civilian import, and really all they did was get rid of this component.
You can see its cross pin here, there’s still a hole for it in the trigger
group, but the component itself is gone. Now, even without that there is still a disconnector, so, this, the trigger, has to go forward. If you just hold the trigger down, it does not fire There is one shot, the trigger bar, as long as you hold it down, is
out of position to re-engage and pull the sear again. Until you release it to there, at
which point it can fire a second time. So this is in every way still a semi-auto gun,
it just doesn’t have that out of battery safety that the original military one did, which is right there. The way this thing works, by the way, is we have
a component right in there that is going to catch on the hammer. You can see it moving up and down right there. It catches on the hammer engagement
surface until it is pushed down at which point it releases the
hammer to be held by the sear right here, which is this rotational part, right there. Now the Chinese did things slightly differently.
They never bothered with this bar up in the front. They instead have … an additional
disconnector here in the back. So when this bar goes down it’s going to push the
trigger bar, which is right down there at the bottom, it pushes it down and out of engagement, which forces,
guarantees, that it disconnects and doesn’t fire fully automatic. Now this is redundant, because even without this
lever this trigger group still functions the same way. So as long as I hold that down it doesn’t fire a second time until I release the trigger,
which allows the trigger bar back up in contact. However, this acts as a duplicate, a redundant backup doing
the same thing, and I suspect that was added for ATF compliance. So for comparison’s sake up on top here we have
the Chinese, and on the bottom we have the Tiger. You can also see evidence of that in the bolt
[carriers], so these are the two Russian bolt [carriers], and you’ll notice they have these little tabs on the back. This is the Chinese bolt [carrier] where this surface
is milled flat. And that’s because this surface has to come back and engage on that lever,
which doesn’t exist in the Russian guns. So that’s why. One interesting element to note is that the manufacturing
style of the bolt carriers in the two Russian guns changed. So this is the military SVD and this is the Tiger. You can see this has a big cutout on
the side, this was done to reduce weight. So on the original SVD bolt [carrier], the
bolt [carrier] is actually hollow inside there, they drilled these two holes out, you
can see that big open empty space. And that’s so that you can have a relatively large component
that doesn’t have as much weight as if it were completely solid. On the Tiger, apparently they just changed manufacturing methods,
and it was easier to mill off a piece out of the side rather than drill holes. You can see that difference there. These bolt
[carriers] appear to be totally interchangeable, they should be, as far as I can tell they are.
Just a change in the manufacturing style. The back of the bolt [carrier] was changed at
the same time, the original military gun here has this short little tail. That acts as a
hammer stop, so that if the hammer does fall before the bolt’s fully home, which it shouldn’t
be able to do because of the disconnector, that little tail will catch the hammer and prevent it
from hitting the firing pin and firing out of battery. On the Tiger they’ve kind of changed that by just leaving
the entire back end of the bolt [carrier] solid there. So this whole section up here
does the job of that little tail. Again, functionally exactly the same, you’d never
be able to tell the difference from shooting the guns, they work the same, just two
different styles of making them. Now we have the military one on top
and the Chinese NDM on the bottom. You’ll see the NDM has the tail, but it’s just
slightly differently milled, so the back of the … bolt carrier isn’t quite as long
here as it is on the Russian gun. A few other just very minor differences that show that
the NDM-86 is […] in fact a Chinese manufactured gun and not made in the same
place as the Izhevsk ones. If you look at things like the profile of this cut, you’ll see that
the Russian gun here is rounded at the end of this channel, but the Chinese one is squared. Just little elements like this that show that
they weren’t done on the exact same tooling. [In addition, the mainspring mounting points in the top covers are different between Chinese and Russian guns.

Also, the military SVD has a free floating firing pin, while the Tiger has a spring loaded firing pin. The NDM-86 was free floating, but many had a firing pin spring added by the importer.] Little bit of a difference on the receivers, and
this is just a manufacturing and stylistic thing. On the military SVD here, there is a lightening
cut on the outside above the magazine well. On the Tiger they got rid of that cut, I think
that was honestly just a simplification thing. This is known as a Type 1
pattern, and this is a Type 2 pattern. When the Chinese copied the guns they copied
the Type 1, so the Chinese NDMs have that cutout. Doesn’t do anything functionally, it’s
just a minor lightening cut to the receiver. Aside from markings, really the
only practical and visible difference between the Tiger and the SVD
is the furniture and the barrel length. So the barrel on the Tiger in the middle is about 2 inches
shorter than the Russian and Chinese guns on the top and bottom. That polymer furniture is totally
interchangeable with wooden furniture. Polymer is, honestly, it’s more durable and it’s a lot cheaper,
so that’s why it was used on the commercial guns. So there was some speculation that the Chinese guns, or some
of them, might be just overstamped Russian production guns. That is certainly not the case based on
these two. There are some definite production and design differences between the
Chinese NDM and the Russian Dragunov. That said, the practical differences bloop. [?]
They shoot the same, they handle the same, you wouldn’t know any of those differences without
actually taking the guns apart and digging into them. No amount of shooting would show
you that there is any practical difference. So, really cool to get a look at all three of these together, the military one here in particular is an extremely
rare gun to encounter in the United States. All three of them are coming up for
sale individually here at Rock Island, so if you are interested in adding any one of them to your
own collection, take a look at the description text below. You’ll find links there to the catalogue pages for all
three, you can look at their pictures, descriptions, etc. And if you’d like to get some shooting
time in on your own with one of these, place a bid on-line or appear live at the auction. Thanks for watching.

100 Comments

  • Reply edm418 March 30, 2019 at 11:42 am

    The cops are coming to pick mine up next week and destroy it because of that murderous fucker in Christchurch.

  • Reply Scott Kenny March 31, 2019 at 9:10 am

    Huh, short-stroke piston like an STV40. Top cover is like the SVT40, too, but the bolt is more AK-like.

  • Reply Amp Amp April 5, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    When I looked at the commercial gun in 1993+- straight out of the cosmoline, the forearm was a lovely pastel purple plastic, and the butt stock was laminate. The gun had an electric scope, the details of which i cannot remember. I just know that batteries would be a problem. The price from the dealer was a very negotiable $1400. Ah decisions, decisions….

  • Reply ItsGin April 6, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    so. . where's the SVU

  • Reply Bat Guano April 7, 2019 at 1:08 am

    Romania Doesn't Make the Dragunov: The PSL https://youtu.be/7sXulRVMX8c to compare this beefy AK in 7.62x54r to the SVD.
    Back in 2008, before the prices of military-style rifles skyrocketed, the Romanian PSL was a good deal for a $600 auto-nugget (I got mine with a scope, 5 mags, accessories, a weird mag carrier and a cheap hard case after haggling with another gun and crates of 7.62x54r ammo). Now these go for thousands! And Russian Dragunov SVDs, Izhmash Tigers, and Chinese NDM-86 knock-offs go for up to tens of thousands of dollars!

  • Reply Mrgunsngear Channel April 7, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    an oldie but a goodie

  • Reply Eilat Эйлат April 11, 2019 at 2:44 am

    Beautiful guns …

  • Reply Ozyrus April 14, 2019 at 11:26 pm

    Great and informative vid, didn't understand though when he said that there was a part that had to be removed in order to comply with ATF, but it appeared the part he was mentioning in that moment was present?

  • Reply ابو حيدر آل شاهين April 18, 2019 at 1:50 am

    This sniper rifles killed a lot of us army back in 2003. More than 3000 us army killed by that rifle. That's what happened when you invad other countries that you should not be in.

  • Reply sawyer mounce April 20, 2019 at 4:54 pm

    Any thoughts on a Dragunov as a Battle Rifle?

  • Reply Andrew Cushman May 1, 2019 at 2:44 am

    Isn't the SVD a counter sniper rifle?

  • Reply Ducaso May 1, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    I understand the polymer furniture is all around better functionally speaking, but the wooden bits just do it for me. Know what I mean?

  • Reply Al Bundy May 5, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    If you were to compare a 1970 – 80 Russian SVD and "Chinese" NDM-86 in 7.62×54 you would find no differences…
    dust covers
    trigger groups
    gas regulators
    bolt carriers
    the shape of the front swivel
    rear sights
    EVERYTHING is identical.
    Only one thing differ them, Russian Rifles have 240mm twist and the "Chinese" ones have the ame 320mm twist Dragunov originally designed his rifle in.

    Oh, but wait, then there are 3 years of Russian production from 71 to 74 when they were making ONLY 320mm twist, and those are the only years you can hardly meet in Russian military. I wonder where did they all go? Hmmmmm…..

    Oh, and there is just one more thing(sic). Well, actually two more things. Can you name another Chinese made weapon (before or after NDM) which uses plywood pressed hand guards. In Russia they have used the same technology on all of their guns starting from SKS all the way to AK-74, until in the late 80's they have made quite an advancement in shock and heat resistant plastics… But still. Try to compare 970s made Russian SVD hand guards and NDM-86 ones. I Pepsi Challenge anyone to find any design differences. The differences which could NOT be attributed to a simple production batch differences, which there always are… WHy would anyone go to such an extent of carbon copying? Enyone knows that carbon copying is way more expensive than making an "optimised copy", kinda like Norinco made AKM version. Why not do what the Inquiries did with their Tabuk? Why did cloning to such an extent never happened in Chinese gun-copying history before or after?

    Another logical question is, if Chinese just suddenly decided to make a carbon copy of the Russian SVD (they have even copied Russian "П" letter on the rear irons), why didn't they clone the scope? What happened there? Did they run out of cloning steam? Or is that because nobody sold them the kits for the scopes, and they had to make their own design there?

    The rumor has it that the Russians sold to China few train loads of SVD kits in the late 70's. Looks like they have sold them everything they have manufactured from 1971-74, as those were all in 320mm twist. Then, the Chinese tried to make/mofify some of these kits, and experimented with 308, but failed, as especially the 308 versions are notoriously prone to malfunctions and catastrophic failures. Obviously there are some late 80's NDM-86 which made it to the USA which obviously were (at least their main parts, like barrels, receivers, magazines and perhaps trigger group housings made in China. But most small parts, and the wood parts, those all look like they were made in the USSR…

    P.S. Jsut in case someone wants to question my credentials. I actually own 4 Dragunov rifles. I also have many different SVD partsfrom different years of production. So, I do have things I can compare to, and therefore I do know what am I talking about. Moreover, I work in the gun manufacturing business, and I do know what manufacturing processes are, and how complex they can get…

  • Reply BM May 7, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Yet another fine example of how the ATF doesn’t know shit about how firearms function.

  • Reply FP541 May 14, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    The Tigr looks so gorgeous

  • Reply Michelle Adams May 23, 2019 at 9:46 am

    I bet these went for some nfa full money. Impressive

  • Reply Matt Smith May 25, 2019 at 3:46 pm

    Man, I can’t believe the people that think these things are on par with a fully custom built bolt gun in terms of accuracy, thankfully I have this video to send to people who try to argue with that it’s not a sniper rifle but more of a designated marksman rifle.

  • Reply sergey s11 May 27, 2019 at 2:39 am

    only military original SVD maded in ussr , the chineses copie is ugly.

  • Reply camel dog June 4, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    bought one for airsoft, i use it more like an assault rifle

  • Reply miketherat June 6, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    Where is PSL-ROMAK ???? !!!!!!!!

  • Reply Cheshire June 8, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    Well technically the OTs-03A SVUA is a full auto version

  • Reply HoennDPN June 9, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    0:54 HERESY? WHERE?!!

  • Reply Superdude70 June 10, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    These rifles and the M76 are absolute sex in stocks! Gun porn!!

  • Reply Альф June 10, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    Хотеть не вредно …

  • Reply That Guy over there June 11, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    Instead of a big AK it's a big sks

  • Reply Y Bai June 12, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    8:30 I use Ian's "universial disassembly tool" for homework everyday.

  • Reply FutureRN_Corey _ June 13, 2019 at 4:42 am

    Can’t get enough of this channel

  • Reply Nem Denemam June 13, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Wait there is no Soviet Union anymore? Damnit! To learn it here of all places.

  • Reply Bill Cyrus June 14, 2019 at 12:55 am

    We've gotta get the import/export bans on these removed.

  • Reply Angry Patriot June 14, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    They have milled recievers vs AK-47 is stamped. The scopes are Night Vision or daytime. Well worth the money. Way better craftmanship than the AK-47.

  • Reply Brotato Chip June 17, 2019 at 2:56 am

    Honestly thinking about buying a Romanian one with 6 magazines and 500rds of ammo for $2,800 right now. (Rifle $2000 and the magazines+ ammo are worth $800 combined)

  • Reply Hannover Fist June 17, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    OH My God!
    I wish I could own that Soviet Drag,, Holy shit
    This is EPIC!

  • Reply Alex June 24, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    No Soviet Union anymore?
    HAHAHA, THAT WHAT WE WANTED YOU TO THINK

    presses the "Soviet Union" button

  • Reply Omar Barakat Talafhah June 26, 2019 at 6:29 am

    6:00 "Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore" hold my beer

  • Reply MaxGogleMogle June 26, 2019 at 10:17 am

    "Tiger' costs $6.900 in the US ?! Dear Santa….. It's madness!
    In Russia 'Tiger" costs about $900 only…

  • Reply jctopgun June 29, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    On my Romanian Dragunov rifle The scope locking leaver keeps coming loose on the rail when I shoot it. Any ideas to fix this issue?

  • Reply niko July 7, 2019 at 9:50 am

    One thing I hate about all 3 of those rifles is the damn price

  • Reply Sutipatt S. Ronakorn July 7, 2019 at 10:12 am

    they should make a gas selector switch to close the gas hole and render it a singleshot sharp shooting sniper rifle. So it can use for crawling 5 km and camp for 3 days for a accurate 1 shot then switch back to semi to shoot the way out of the whole enemy army.

  • Reply anonymous user July 8, 2019 at 3:46 pm

    The Dragunov is OUR gun.

  • Reply Pteris Vittata July 9, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    By the way:
    SVDS (foldable)
    SVDA (automatic fire)
    SVU (bullpup)
    SVUA (automatic, bullpup)
    SVDK (big caliber, 9,3×64)
    SVDM – modernized (shorter barrel, pikatiny, foldable stock)

  • Reply boogerboy87 July 14, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    Actually, there is one full auto version, but it's also a bullpup and only issued to the Russian FSB presidential detail. Known as a SVUM, not a lot of videos of this type of gun being fired.

  • Reply 1960jefbot July 15, 2019 at 5:57 am

    The more things change…..there was a time when a Soviet SVD was worth over $25K (in 1970s money….)

  • Reply John Doe July 15, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    "There's basically no difference between these guns"

    *video is over 22 minutes*

  • Reply Mohammed Cohen July 17, 2019 at 5:46 am

    I remember when the Chinese version was generally available at gunshows her in FL…sadly I had little interest at the time….now they're worth thousands!!!

  • Reply Honda Gaharu July 17, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    What is the effective range for a dragunov? Google it.

  • Reply Eion Stafford July 19, 2019 at 10:20 am

    "There are no automatic Draginovs…"
    Me: Is that a CHALLENGE?

  • Reply ETHRON1 July 19, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    Way cool. As always I learned something new today.

  • Reply Thanh Tran July 19, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    Prices are crazy

  • Reply Migraine Enabler July 20, 2019 at 8:06 am

    How does SVD compares to M1 Garand accuracy-wise?

  • Reply Connor Doyle July 20, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    Ive always wanted one of these. I know there are better rifles out there but shit these things are gorgeous in my opinion

  • Reply Mitchell Hoffarth July 22, 2019 at 6:22 am

    BATF: um ya like yur semi-automatic disconnector cant um like be that like um shape because like it looks like an auto sear which is the part that makes machine guns scary and evil. Ya like change that.

    Importers: changed the shape of the components while leaving the function of those components literally the exact same as the “evil” components.

    The BATF is ridiculous.

  • Reply DreamingFlurry July 26, 2019 at 7:51 am

    Wow, the military one is well made, the other two look like they've been made in a crude little home-shop somewhere in the mountains by insurgents 🙁

  • Reply vernon knapp July 26, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    No Al-Iraqi made Al-Kadesih? Good, because they are trash. Unfortunately the Iraqis have never built anything worth-while; Iraqi soldiers were terrified of their own firearms, they were afraid of losing an eye or a hand due to shoddy quality.

  • Reply vernon knapp July 26, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    5:24 1.5 to 2 moa at 100 meters? That is not good at all. If there is a target out there 1000 meters away, he is pretty safe.

  • Reply gc5Hayward July 26, 2019 at 10:48 pm

    Wonderful presentation my friend! Thx

  • Reply DARIVS ARCHITECTVS July 27, 2019 at 9:34 am

    Thanks Ian!

  • Reply Rron 1 July 28, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    Any critical ops player here after SVD came out in the game???

  • Reply Alina Vinnytsia July 29, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Remember project igi when people saw dragunov

  • Reply Nick Kinny July 30, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Chinese they copy AK and even dragunov too😂 What ever it is but SVD looks so cool and this gun is admirable gun

  • Reply Лев Чумаков July 31, 2019 at 11:37 pm

    We just understand that reliability is the key to success. Even if you have the most powerful weapon in the world and it will jam and then you'll kill even the Papuan with the stone!

  • Reply Andrew Peterson August 2, 2019 at 5:32 am

    PSA needs to make them ! not a joke I want one !

  • Reply Otto Von Bitches August 2, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    I'll give ya tree fiddy for the whole lot

  • Reply Elyas Yusuf August 4, 2019 at 5:07 am

    Chinese at it again

  • Reply Laur's Channel August 6, 2019 at 10:07 am

    They all look mean except for that shitty Chinese .308 thing wich disguted me..

  • Reply Smirking Smirkku August 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    Military SVD is Beautiful 🙂

  • Reply Mak Dizsar August 8, 2019 at 8:26 am

    Where is the yugoslavian m76 sniper rifle?

  • Reply Isaac Vincent August 10, 2019 at 6:04 am

    I can't bring actual data to support this claim, but when I lived in the USSR back in early 90's for a little while, I heard from several Russian Army officers that there were a small handful of them (around a dozen) that were somehow converted to full automatic fire. They were supposed to be used by the KGB or Soviet special forces as a semi accurate rifle to be used against protesters and illegal political parties. This was supposed to be a weapon of terror to suppress opposition leaders.
    I suspect that they never actually made any, but just having people believe that they had such capabilities would almost be as effective.

  • Reply Scriefers August 13, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    7:14 no fully automatic dragonov? what about the svu-a?

  • Reply Barmagloth August 13, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    Nice video! You are one of very few smart guyz who properly recognize SVD as marksman (NOT sniper) rifle.
    As for differences between SVD and Tiger – the main and only substantial one is barrel rifling. SVD with it's 240mm twist rate can be used with both light and heavy cartridges, Tiger with it's 320mm twist rate – with light cartridges only. Some military cartridges like incendiary AP will ruin Tiger's rifling pretty fast.
    Though Tiger due to it's rifling is a bit more accurate than SVD.

    NDM-86 also has 320mm twist rate AFAIK. I don't know how chinese deal with it. Maybe they just don't use heavy cartridges.

  • Reply Ryu Yasha August 21, 2019 at 4:22 am

    Slav DMR

  • Reply Robert Vongartzen August 23, 2019 at 10:40 am

    I wonder how much a real Russian Dragunov worth it ?????

  • Reply OSUNA August 30, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    (tiger carbine) "this is one that came in through California arms, which is a little bit unusual" chuckled lmao

  • Reply Brian W August 31, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    I’ve always wanted guns I know I’ll never acquire.

  • Reply Haris122 September 3, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    How do you think the Chinese got to making their Dragunov copies? I imagine reverse engineering captured ones from somewhere, or did the Soviets still give them access to the Dragunov design specifications even after the split?

  • Reply allain98productions September 5, 2019 at 7:54 am

    It's actually a sophisticated and refinated version of an AK for precision sake, quite different indeed.

  • Reply Sergey Doronin September 8, 2019 at 8:03 am

    14:15
    However, some versions of SVU had full-auto mode.

  • Reply Tin Man September 10, 2019 at 3:03 am

    Why in the hell have US manufacturers not made clones of these?

  • Reply Revive Fifa September 14, 2019 at 8:05 am

    Would you say that Yugoslav ZASTAVA M76 is the variation of the same weapon?

  • Reply Jeffrey ReyzR September 14, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    Oh Project IGI is backk

  • Reply Elite GamingWolf October 1, 2019 at 8:42 am

    you know alot about guns, i respect that alot.

  • Reply виталик погорлецкий October 1, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    ну попросите его помедление говорить

  • Reply Serega Poisk October 4, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    The most beautiful marksman's rifle…

  • Reply Zhe Zhan October 5, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    Have any one heared of the Medved Rifle? I am tempting to buy one. It is said to be a civilian SVD and I just want to know more about it.

  • Reply Kevin Kalal October 7, 2019 at 10:28 pm

    I think so too Ian down the rabbit hole we go

  • Reply June Burton October 14, 2019 at 1:34 am

    The ATF is dumb as shit.

  • Reply Austen Morey October 21, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    How much would it cost if someone were to lose one in a boating accident? Asking for a friend.

  • Reply Patrick W October 24, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    Back in 2003, literally just before i was deploying, had a chance to buy a chinese one of these for $900 from some joe also deploying.

    Had a chance to buy a lot of good stuff back then. Including the chinese steel core 7.62×39.

  • Reply Victor Gavloski October 25, 2019 at 12:13 am

    Jesus loves you my friends

  • Reply darken gale October 27, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    Dragunov SVD with full wood gunstock used by Croatin defenders back in 1991 against agressor Serbs.
    They killed or wounded in action 4 Serbs, others scaterred away in panica,
    The other day our sniper masters Damir Markuš & Igor Široki kill another 2 Serbian okupators :).
    Town of Vukovar, september, october and till the 18.november, when Vukovar unfortunitelly fell in Serbian hands….
    That was OUR Croatian Stalingrad where we broke Serbian spine.

  • Reply Michael Ledford October 28, 2019 at 1:23 am

    Gander Mountian sells an air rifle that looks exactly the same as the legendary russian sniper rifle, its such a close replica that i nearly bought 1 on a half dozen visits to the store & still may buy one just to plink with.

  • Reply Unprofessional Professor October 29, 2019 at 8:27 am

    TIL: Dragunov =/= Longboi Kalashnikov

  • Reply Chingloady Man October 29, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    Yeesh, Dragunov has a mega long barrel

  • Reply James Looker October 29, 2019 at 9:39 pm

    I wish Ian had weighed the bolt carriers.

  • Reply aa11ff November 1, 2019 at 1:03 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcFsUQZmnXQ

  • Reply Richard Barrett November 1, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    I had a play with one of these when I was training for my crossed rifles, my issued rifle was the L96. This rifle felt like a toy in comparison, had nowhere near the range and soon lost its accuracy once the barrel heated up. But, when we went deer stalking up the glens I would rather have used one of these any day instead of lugging around the L96.

  • Reply DeputyDanTV November 2, 2019 at 2:46 am

    its ok dude. i call it the soviet union too

  • Reply XTrooper3936 November 2, 2019 at 12:00 pm

    I owned a Dragunov Tiger back in the '90s when I had my gun shop. It was a fun shooter and a rugged, accurate weapon. I'm trying to remember from almost thirty years ago so I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain that mine, unlike the one in the video, had both a wooden forend and buttstock. It also had a similarly illuminated reticle (yellow) Russian scope. $6900?! I guess I should have kept that one! 🙂

  • Reply get money November 4, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    Lol crawling 5 miles in a gilly suit, living in his own filth for 1 kill shot….Lol…

  • Reply k00stin terror games November 8, 2019 at 12:55 am

    do a mud test on one of these guns preferably the zastava m76

  • Reply Elite THOT Unit November 9, 2019 at 12:28 am

    Fact: The ATF fucker that said the disconnector prevented it from being imported deserves to have his face beaten in with a hammer until death.

    Correction, all ATF agents deserve to have their faces beaten in with a hammer.

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