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Sen Blackburn questions Dep. Sec. of Defense Nominee Norquist at Armed Services hearing 7.24.19

July 29, 2019



thank you and welcome we're glad you're here and appreciate the time that you gave me last week to review some things and talk about the audit and then to be able to drill down on a couple of issues I want to circle back to something we discussed with 5g and looking at foreign production and adoption advanced communication technology such as 5g wireless networks and how this is going to challenge our competitiveness and our data security a US data will increasingly flow across foreign produced equipment in foreign controlled networks raising the risk for an access and denial of service and just this month the Philippines 5g rollout began it's a Chinese design Network executed by Chinese engineers in the Philippines backed by state-owned China Telecom Corporation on Hardware supplied by Huawei the Philippines are a vital US security ally and the indo-pacific from joint exercises and training to stabilization in the South China Sea to coordinated humanitarian relief meanwhile Huawei's equipment is up and running in the 5g networks of another regional defense partner South Korea it is spreading through Europe in the Gulf and is the bedrock of Africa's telecom network in your advanced policy questionnaire and in our discussion you indicated that next generation information communications technology 5g is an area in which DoD plans to collaborate with the private sector and I would like for you to expand on that statement and if you're confirmed how would you prioritize this collaboration so one of the ways that Senator that we're looking to work with the private sector is to give them environments where 5g can be established like on a military blaze at a Depot because part of what they need to do is be able to experiment and often it's hard to get an entire city or town to agree to let you to put this equipment so we can put them up on bases bring in the private sector and say here's what the network what can you do with it how can we take advantage of it how can we develop both military and private sector uses of it to experiment and develop because that's part of what gives the competitive edge in that area we're also looking at dynamically sharing spectrum which allows to give a competitive edge and 5g as well so those are some of the areas that we're working right now with the private sector and should I be confirmed would be one of the areas we'd continue to focus on then go ahead and touch on how you would collaborate with them with artificial intelligence and with hypersonics sure so with with artificial intelligence there's a number of activities that go on in the private sector that have an overlap with the government such as in logistics we're working with them there's the jake has a project that they're doing the joint artificial intelligence center working with the private sector on disaster relief how quickly can I use video and identify people in a disaster area so that I know how to rescue them and using the data analytical intelligence to find that in a video faster than a human can so we're going to continue to use the the joint artificial intelligence Center to establish more of those pilots and experiment and expand the range of areas where that cooperation occurs I was a just in Commerce Committee and we were passing out the broadband data Act and the 5g leadership Act which we had amended with a portion or a portion of that bill was amended with my supply chain Security Act something that I think is vitally important and we know that DoD partnering with the commercial sector is going to be of tremendous importance to moving us forward with artificial intelligence machine learning etc quickly on a cyber let's we've talked a little bit about Russia and China and their engagement in massive cyber campaigns and trying to steal trade secrets and proprietary information so just to touch on this with Russia and China's aggressiveness and their massive thefts of technology in cyberspace touch on the threat you think that presents to our security and our economic prosperity equally it is a very serious threat and it works across a range of areas because they can come into the critical infrastructure the private sector they can go after those defense firms and the defense industrial base that you have two government ones either to go in and do malicious attacks to disrupt our activities or assembly to steal technology so they can advance through theft what they couldn't advance through research that undermines the safety of it security of our forces and future fights it undermines the copyrighted protected data you know that vendors depend on for their businesses and losing that proprietary information puts their competitive edge at risk as well we look forward to having you move through quickly and I thank you for being here today Thank You senator

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