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What medieval weapons would ORCS really use? FANTASY RE-ARMED

July 23, 2019



rather greetings I'm shad and welcome to my video series where I have a look at the classic fantasy races and with my studying no knowledge have been out accumulate on historical medieval weapons I see if the classic weapons that are attributed to classic fantasy races that even fantasy so dwarves elves and all that stuff I see if there are you know classic weapons that they use are best suited to their physical characteristics and if not or even if they don't have any standard weapons that they use what weapons would be best for them based on those characteristics and in this video we're going to be looking at orcs well to begin we need to figure out what are the standard physical characteristics walks because there's so many different medieval fantasies and different interpretation stuff like that and this is always a tricky thing so I've just basically got to try and look at them all and then get a general gist ish thing so there are some fantasies where the this analysis is are not going to be fully representative but hopefully it'll give you insights to be able to apply to the more specific fantasy settings so orcs are generally ugly that's a bit unfair I'm sure orcs think us humans are ugly but to a human an orc is ugly unless you have more different tastes I guess it could be refined or I'm secure you'd float about that time now okay so yes they look different do they have sometimes I have touched on that but okay generally they're taller than humans so they can be massively taller or a little bit taller but let's just say taller and we'll go with starting off with a 10 centimeters to maybe even a foot and they generally stronger physically stronger than humans now in terms of fantasies that I pausing as well like I'll get back to the different fantasies and stuff this analysis is also really applying to the order Chi out of Lord of the Rings in all of the Rings a goblin or core are basically the same thing there's probably more specific kind of details that you order the Rings fans all you know pull me up on that that's fine but generally as I understand it but they're basically the same thing so I basically consider orcs and goblins in all of the Rings as goblins and Urich I as the orcs of that fantasy setting because the uruk-hai are more representative of orcs and other fantasy settings like Dungeons & Dragons Warhammer and you know the big fit medieval fantasy products and genres world settings all that stuff interesting the orcs kind of almost similar to elves in the sense that I have not really seen in terms of fantasy movies video games or so role-playing games and whatnot orcs are not representative having any significant physical detriment as opposed to humans no slower than humans and no less dexterous sometimes they're far more resistant to injury especially like if you're walking Lord of the Rings now you don't get stabbed through the governor I know I don't care I'll breathe on you very key strategic move there the power of bad breath the secret as to why Eragon was immune right there because his breath was actually justice there is a detrimental quality that orcs generally possess as opposed to humans and other fantasy races and that is of course in regards to their intelligence orcs in many settings not all what I add but it seems to be most because orcs are a monstrous creature I'm sorry this really happen is applied when orcs are a monster or not I play a character race and they would then be given less intelligence and dunces dragons they are consistently given less intelligence if you have a look at their standard stats in the Monster Manual half walks sometimes depending on what Edition commonly I like it the most recent editions no they'd are not given our less intelligence by looking at full blooded orcs Warcraft is a bit of half-and-half same with Warhammer Elder Scrolls no orcs are about as our inter as intelligent as other races the interesting thing about intelligence is that yes this would affect how competent a warrior they are because intelligence and using proper tactics when to find whatnot all that plays a very significant role in how good a fighter they are but this video isn't assessing how good our orcs at fighting its what weapons would they most predominantly use and I don't think intelligence unless they're full-blown completely stupid when they're not generally considered to be as stupid as like animals and stuff that they would use different weapons that are not better suited to their physical characteristics not their mental characteristics I do think orcs are intelligent enough to figure that out most settings they are like water the Rings the oricon are things like that they're smart enough to know the best weapons to kill other things with because they like killing and they're generally good at it so because of this intelligence isn't really going to affect the weapon choices that are best suited to this fantasy race the more significant elements to consider are physical characteristics and in regards to physical characteristics orcs really are superior to humans so this kind of brings back to my thoughts about oh I don't generally like finit but actually for orcs I think it works a bit better than our elves elves I player characters and heroes and if you want a good story you need proper limitations and conflict for the heroes to overcome and so if you make them a Mary Sue and a good and everything doesn't really work but for monsters okay giving the bad guy more powers that can make a story far more interesting and so this is why aux being so much better and superior to humans in a physical sense can work really well making fetish settings because people should regard them as pretty damn dangerous they're orcs okay monsters should be more dangerous they should be scary like that's the best type of monsters that when you're faced with them the hero he knows he's got to have to work to beat these creatures which is why I kind of can kind of defeat the suspense when you have a hero run into an army of Orcs and just hack them apart like they're all useless sweet creatures like these are actually stronger than humans okay it shouldn't be that easy for some reason I don't know the the hordes of enemy monsters are in capable of reaching the same school levels as the heroes because we always want the heroes to be able to defeat the hordes of the monsters even though we want these monsters to be stronger than the heroes a little scary the euros can always just chance them like their lemmings so we're coming back to orcs best favored weapon sets kind of what we were saying with elves I think more predominantly culture is going to have a larger impact in their favored weapons they're necessarily physical characteristics at now when I'll saying that up elven elves of the bows and there were other weapon sets that did suit characteristics with always greed but with dwarves not dwarves orcs they already have a reach advantage because they hide so they don't necessarily need to rely on weapons with reach but if they did use up in streets and they have that even more so so I think that they have a preference to edge weapons battlefields and other like things like that but what in terms of sidearms orcs almost universally are an aggressive war like you know race even though they can use proper tactics and stuff like that and as I was saying I don't think it's fair to say orc so universally have a bloodlust rage that they can't avoid in combat I think they can fight with their equal competence as regular humans but they are more aggressive in every fantasy setting orcs are about fighting or if not raiding but certainly a warlike species so because of that perhaps they they're raduege weaponry sidearm would actually be battlefield level weapons for in regards to history it would be weird for a human to carry around a shield for personal defense because it's so cumbersome and honestly if you carry a weapon some fence just for the off chance okay most people in history won't attack my bandits it happens but the average person probably you know if there was a lot of people in the medieval period who lived their entire lives not being attacked by bandits contrary to what fantasy movies and not stopped teaching but they still carried around a sword as their sidearm for self-defense just in case that maybe that off-chance living in a society that was far more like okay where else there was much higher chances of you getting into a fight okay you would want to be as well equipped and well and as you could it's simple logic if you go to a medieval period a human and you say you know what you are going to be attacked by the end of state to guarantee fact I had to be in the future I come from what I meant you are going to be attacked by bandits all right what does that peasant gonna do you're just going to grab their single sword and be as armed as they were no of course not they should have said as much I know we're full plate armor of course I probably you know avoid it like lock themselves in their house so they couldn't do that but they knew that we're going to get into an actual meal a weaponry battle they would grab as much harm as they could full plate mail big battlefield weapon give them as much advantage as possible gives the opponent because when you know you're going into battle that's when you equip yourself to the full and there's of course where we see battle food standard weapons battlefield weapons are different to self defense weapons because of convenience you can't wear full plate armor 24/7 or carry a big massive pollaxe that's why the swords are so prominent in history but if your side II lived in a society where fighting and battle was far more regular okay I think for an orc you'd be a normal thing for them to walk wear Armour as informal clothing okay and big battle field level weapons as in all Armand so we're talking Poland's all right we're talking great swords we're talking war bows and stuff the very significant results of this very significant is that the sword would probably less of a prominent weapon amongst an orcish culture than amongst humans the sword is a perfect weapon for self-defense that's why I was so popular and prominent throughout so many periods in history but as technology improved and specifically armor the sword is nowhere near as a defective weapon against armor as big pole weapons Pike's hull Birds pole axes maces morning yeah morning stars about war hammers and the like okay those are full-on battlefield weapons and the sword is a more general verse – weapon okay and so with orcs I think this swords because of that would be letter far less prominent yeah maybe they wouldn't even exist talks they're like they're useless because orcs they're fighting all the time and they do wear armor and stuff like that and so for the orc for the webisode sense yeah battle another so we are talking pole arms and the flavor of the orc would be you know pole axes or halberd something with a big axe head and I got a big axe head a they suit they really suit orcs and if you get us a Dane axe a pole axe is basically a Dane axe on steroids okay pole axe all the way over Dane axe and maces and war hammers like proper warmers not fantasy war hammers proper war hammers okay now when I said that there was not a weapon that played into the orcs physical characteristics I think I spoke too soon because there is a weapon that would benefit massively from the orcs increased strength and that is the bone the bones come up a lot already we will talk about extensively with the dwarves and elves and now the orcs and in all the other videos I mentioned whether this more significant attribute for war bows specifically the heavy big war bows is strength and orcs have strength in abundance so the poundage of the average war bow for an orc cik orcish bro right but it could be much higher than the average humans and they are boy the advantages that you're getting that range penetration those two facts alone if they're significantly greater have huge advantage I mean war bows standard level war bows can't penetrate plate armor in some cases at very close range they could puncture but nowhere near enough to actually kill a person okay but the orc bows I met maybe they could get to such strength that they can penetrate plate arm and my goodness if they could that's almost like having a gun okay that's like having ballistic weapon to the medieval period because a ballistic ballistic weapons could penetrate plate armor not all plate are not the early ballistic weapons they had more trouble the latter ones could penetrate much easier but if you're dealing with those issues and a MIDI we're sitting with medieval elements and stuff like that or that changes the game completely like fighting orcs you knew your armor is going to be reducers and they could penetrate armor changes the game completely and then there is an issue of range gosh my goodness if all arches right there and these points will be thick powerful big like war bows that put English long bows to shame okay if they can get additional range or on their opponents they can rain down death on enemy armies before the enemy army even thought they were in danger that's crazy you see the issue without doing that regularly is that for you put to put yourself in range of the enemy generally puts yourself in the enemy's range as well and so you can kind of hit each other but if these orcs had but such like they would have such significant range that they could put themselves and just be at high the tactics you can employ it would just be crazy that getting there sending huge volley the enemy will get half slaughtered they might not even see whether it's coming from they try and pursue the auto just run away and shoot again and then the orcs keep out of range they can wipe out armies without losing a single guy deadly level war those yeah orcs and bones match made in heaven or if you're going to fight them perhaps a match made in hell hell for you because you're going to be in the hell quite well if you've been bad maybe nothing in heaven so horse cool boy awesome bonus big one but that's really it that I think that's it so these are my conclusions the best medieval weapons for orcs would actually be battlefield weapons because of all society they would have far less use for swords because the sword is a backup okay to backup weapon for self-defense for the off chance that you might get into it but if you knew you're getting getting into a fight you would use a bigger more serious weapon that's made for the battlefield and that's what the ox would use in everyday life so battlefield weapons for the orcs polearms big weapons great swords even great sort of sweet orcs really well and the war bow but bigger war bows because they're greater strength that's just those are my conclusions I thank you very much for joining me on this consideration this analysis I hope to see you again and until next time farewell

28 Comments

  • Reply Metatron July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Boy I love this series, keep going,very entertaining.

  • Reply LightDragon777 July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Haha, I love how the first thing he mentions is that they're ugly. :p

  • Reply Dragon Crusader July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Due to the Orc war culture do you think their armor/weapon creation would advance faster/better then humans?

  • Reply Andus Dominae July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Orcs with bows: possibly the answer to why barbarians are mostly unarmoured.
    As I understand it, barbarian tribes tend to share territory, compete or war with Orcs in most settings.

  • Reply MultiGERmann July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Bow and strength, yes I agree. But Orcs and tactics with the bow, not really. Also, Orcs and bow as the main weapon, not really too. Because Orcs are a battle race like you said, but more brutish. So they will more likely do close combat.
    That is what I think.

  • Reply Jim McCumber July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    your way of thinking challenges my own and probably many other amateur or even professional authors/artists (as seen in your pop culture critiques) To be Better!

  • Reply jamesp81 July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    I'm sure it's been pointed out, but in LOTR, Aragorn is not a normal human. He's Nuemenorrean. Longer lived, stronger, faster, smarter, just generally superior physical and mental faculties compared to regular humans. The reason he can go through orcs like a bandsaw through wood is because he's likely physically superior to most of them.

  • Reply Holden Mcgroine July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    goblins and orcs are the same thing. they just incidentally behave the most intelligently when referred to as goblins

  • Reply emptyforrest July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    bows and war picks.

  • Reply Henry Cobb July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    What medieval weapons would neanderthals use, just thrusting spears?

  • Reply Twop July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    I can’t stop laughing from imagining how Orks would fight with a Flail only hitting their own head

  • Reply Talk-Nopp Blog July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Orcs, can be dumb while being blacksmith. They could be one of those races thinks. Since I am much larger than you, and powerful than you. Including faster making weapons. I am Superior than you.. so that makes them dumb then attack you with Shear dumbness. Like super mutants from fallout 4 they think they are better than you since they are mutations.

  • Reply Mac Russell July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Nice Templar game music there bud

  • Reply Sokar Rostau July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Pssst… a bow is a ballistic weapon.

  • Reply jason waterfalls 2012 July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    #elfsupremacy

  • Reply DoctorMandible July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    You showed video of Aragon killing orcs while saying orcs are stronger than humans. But Aragon isn't human. He's Numenorian. It's mentioned in the movies and it's a big deal in the books.

  • Reply James Cones July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    I always kinda got the impression that the uruks were more like Hobgoblins and dnd but the goblins in lord of the rings being so similar to orcs did throw me off too. love your videos especially this series btw.
    I use your and skallagrims videos as a good guide to add realism when I dm

  • Reply Tom Hung July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you for recognizing that bad people go to hell. Our leftist society today is intent on insisting that morality is based on human logic and reason alone and not on the supernatural

  • Reply Lancet Fencing July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    i must interject. swords require greater intelligence to “fully” utilize than axes or clubs

  • Reply Lucas Milone July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Orcs in LOTR do have an important physical detriment: they can’t stand sunlight.

  • Reply m00kism July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    This is my kind of silly. I'm in, new subscriber.

  • Reply Owen Carl July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Bit late to the party but that’s because I’ve only recently found this channel; little nitpick on the Uruk-hai size thing – it’s only in the films that they’re bigger than humans. In the books they’re described to be ‘man-high’, so like regular orcs and goblins (which are the same thing in Middle-earth actually, they’re just two different names that can be used interchangeably) they’d fall into the ‘not covered by this analysis’ camp. 😉

  • Reply treeghettox July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    6:50 Thanks so much for pointing this out. A major flaw of LoTR is the disconnect between how big of a threat orcs are supposed to be versus how embarrassingly easy they are to kill. The only orc that was properly represented was that one that ran at the bomb with a torch and survived like eight arrows.

  • Reply Rob Cummings July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    I recognize lindybeige's bow footage lol

  • Reply Ben Worthing July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Uruk Hai are half orcs. True Orcs were created by the Dark God by twiting some Elves. Goblins and Orcs are very different. Goblins are also very susceptible to light. original d&d had them right.

  • Reply Judson Gaiden July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Orcs are "ugly," per se. They're basically a caricature of a human (or humanoid) with some ape-like and boar-like features to accentuate their strength even further.
    4:50 What makes you think chimps aren't smart? By animal standards, that is.
    6:48 Lemmings? Why lemmings? Of course, you realize that old Disney propaganda regarding lemmings is bunk, right?

  • Reply Phil L. July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Any movies with orcs? Beside Lord of the Ring and The Hobbit?

  • Reply Paul Butkovich July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Your discussion of the advantages of orc bows reminds me of how the Mongols were so devastating. The ability to get into and out of the enemy's range quickly with powerful bows cannot be oversold.

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